AL East Redux with Seth Mnookin
Maybe this is a universal feeling. Probably not. But I have several good friends who I think are way too cool to hang out with me. They are so cool that, for instance, they don't use comically outdated words like "cool." Seth Mnookin is undoubtedly the coolest person willing to be seen in public with me. He lives in New York, wears all black, swears a lot, has appeared on The Daily Show with Jon Stewart, hangs around with people like Sarah Vowell and has written for Spin, Slate and Salon -- the three S's of journalism cool. He's a Harvard grad, his work has appeared in Dave Eggers' Best American Non Required Reading 2002 and The New Yorker, and he started his career as a rock critic.
I'm embarrassed for HIM, when people see us in the same place.
But above all, Seth Mnookin is a huge Red Sox fan. His terrific insider account of the Red Sox, Feeding the Monster, made the New York Times best seller's list and will come out in paperback this year. We've already had Alex Belth preview the American League East, and he was fabulous, but he's a Yankees fan through and through. Here we give the Red Sox equal time. Plus, this way I can tell people again, "I got to exchange emails with Seth Mnookin. He likes me. He really likes me."
First, 1-5, predict the AL East race.
1. Boston
2. New York
3. Toronto
4. Tampa Bay
5. Baltimore
I'm flip-flopping the historic 1-2 and 4-5, only because I don't buy the Braves argument – they've won in the past, ergo, they'll win in the future – and at some point the Sox need to win the damn division. (If they don't, Murray Chass will never truly believe they won the World Series.) And Tampa Bay is, at least, interesting. The Orioles simply suck ass.
Who do you think is the best player in the division?
David Ortiz. There's a good argument to be made that the best player should also play in the field, but that argument doesn't hold up here. Pedro was the best player in the league in the 1999-2000 era, and Papi is now. He's the most fun to watch, he makes his teammates better, he changes the complexion of every game when the Red Sox enter the 8th or 9th down a couple of runs. Someday we'll look back and realize that, over the last four years, we all witnessed something truly incredible.
True of false: Derek Jeter is a lousy defensive shortstop.
True. He's perfected the Nomar move: make an average play look remarkably difficult, thereby drawing oohs and aahs from fans and ignorant broadcasters alike. He's not as bad as some think – he's far from the worst shortstop in baseball – but he's in the lower half.
For your first book, Hard News, you appeared on Bill O'Reilly and on Jon Stewart's show. Which one was more fun?
That's such a gimme. C'mon. Stewart. He'd actually read the book; he wanted to engage on a real level; he repeatedly called (former New York Times editor) Howell Raines a dick on the air. O'Reilly really is more of a kabuki theater experience: you're having a conversation, the red light comes on, and all of a sudden there's lots of yelling and sudden movements. It wouldn't be a good show for an epileptic to do.
Who is the best starting pitcher in the division?
Chien-Ming Wang. (Doesn't it sound crazy to say that?) Nah, just kidding. Right now it's kind of a toss-up. Roy Halladay would be if he stayed healthy. I'm interested in what happens with Daisuke-san, although even in the best of circumstances he's not going to be the best pitcher in the division. Outside of that, who knows? Phillip Hughes could come up and blow everyone away. Scott Kazmir would pull it all together. We could have a Papelbon-esque emergence somewhere. One thing I know: it won't happen in Baltimore. Because Baltimore sucks.
Who is the best closer in the division?
Mariano. He's older, he's slowing down, but he's still the best. This is assuming Papelbon stays in the rotation.
You started out as a rock critic. A friend of mine who works for Warner says Linkin Park will have the No. 1 selling album in America this year. This depressed me. The question: Is there a great rock and roll band left in the world?
Oh, sure. There are a lot. Radiohead's a really great rock band – when I saw them in Madison Square Garden a couple of years ago, I was blown away. Wilco is occasionally a great band. The Arcade Fire is on its way to being a great band. U2 is a great rock band. And there are lots of small and smallish bands that I think are great; it just depends if you're defining the term as someone/something that can blow away 20,000 people at a time.
Remember, too – and I'm saying this only because I hate to see you depressed – there have been lots of awful bands that have had the best selling album of any given year: The Saturday Night Fever, The Bodyguard Soundtrack, albums by REO Speedwagon, Bobby Brown, and Ace of Base.
Editor's note: I can't get into Wilco. And I feel like I'm a traitor to my Generation X or something. I've had dozens of people try to get me to appreciate Wilco. My friend Brian, the Warner Music guy, has given me something like 493 free Wilco discs, others have played Wilco in the car when we've been together and slowly explained to me why Wilco is great. I don't deny Wilco's greatness. I really don't. I just can't get into the music. I know it's me.
Two part question. Do you: a.) Believe in clutch hitting? and b.) Believe that Big Papi is a bonafide clutch hitter?
A. Yes.
B. Yes.
I don't see how there's any way you could have watched baseball for the past half-decade and not believe that Ortiz rises to the occasion; ergo, clutch hitting exists. As Bill James told me in Feeding the Monster (available for just $17.16 from Amazon! Cheap!), just because we don't know how to quantify it doesn't mean it doesn't exist.
The Yankees pitching staff features 39-year-old Mike Mussina, 37-year-old Mariano Rivera, and Andy Pettite, who is 498. While the Yankees will still have the youngest pitching staff in New York, does the Yankees staff give you hope?
Hope for the Red Sox? The Yankees also have Phillip Hughes. The Sox have 40-year old Schilling and the Depression-era Wakefield/Timlin duo. Either rotation could end up clicking – Pavano could have a good year (unlikely, but theoretically possible); Wang could replicate '06; Hughes could come up and dominate circa Papelbon '06. And in Boston, Beckett could get electro-shock treatment and cure him of the misconception that he can blow his fastball by AL hitters, Dice-K could gyro his way to a 40-0 record, Papelbon could make the transition to starter and finish the year with a .03 ERA. Or it could all go to shit. Who knows?
True or False: The Red Sox will rue the day they signed J.D. Drew.
True. That day will be on April 1, 2010.
You are one of the few people who have had the good fortune of talking with Stephen Glass, Jayson Blair and James Frey: the Elvis, Chuck Berry and Little Richard of untrue journalism. Give us a scouting report on each:
Actually, I didn't really talk to Frey. (Or I did, but only when I mistook him for someone else at a charity auction. He's short. And really pathetic.) Jayson is, legitimately, a manic loon; Stephen is, legitimately, smart and also seemed to me to be aware of what he'd done, although I found his decision to write a "novel" instead of dealing with the people he'd screwed over a bit odd. Or at least indicative of his not fully accepting the consequences of what happened.
What are your favorite and least favorite Yankees-Red Sox moments?
I'm going to limit this to the last decade. Favorites: the '04 playoffs, the two '04 July games (the brawl and the Jeter-into-the-stands), the '03 playoffs, the '99 Pedro 17-K game in Yankee stadium. Least favorite: the opening series of the '06 regular season (the Sheffield into the right-field stands series) and the final series of the '06 regular season. The first series was just ugly; the final one clearly signaled the jump-the-shark moment of the rivalry. (Incidentally, I was at all of these games/moments save for the Fenway July '04 match and the '03 playoffs.)
Toronto. Do you even take the Blue Jays seriously anymore as a fan?
Well, sure. J.P.'s a smart guy and has the potential to be a really good GM. They've beaten up on the Sox, and they have Roy Halladay. I didn't get their pitching signings last off-season, although with the Meche's of the world getting $300 mil a year, the BJ/Burnett deals do look pretty good.
You graduated from Harvard with a degree in the history of science. What is that? What in the heck did you think you were going to do with that? And how in the heck did you use that to write your terrific insider Red Sox book?
It's a major I fell into after I'd signed up for at least four or five others: History of Literature; English; Anthropology; Philosophy. And History of Science is (or was) the closest you could come to a kind of classic liberal arts education: I got to take sciences and history and philosophy and it all counted. But it didn't help much with the Sox book. Or anything I've done professionally. One day, I'll use my thesis – on 19th-century, epileptic axe murderers – in some way. I'm determined.
Baltimore. Tampa Bay. Any interesting thoughts on these poor shlubs?
Tampa Bay: It's criminal that a team can be paid more in revenue sharing than they spend on player payroll. Lucchino once told me they were likely spending money on other things, like player development. Fine. But good god, man, shouldn't there be some kind of stipulation that teams use the money they get to sign players that might make the team at least semi-competitive?
Baltimore: The Orioles traded for Kris Benson. They deserve whatever they get.
Many people have said that the Red Sox are the new Yankees ... they just go out and spend money and buy players. Does this in any way cut into your enjoyment?
Actually, yes. If I was the god of all things baseball, I'd have a salary floor and a salary ceiling. It'd make the game more interesting.
Matsuzaka. You buying the hype?
If you bought the hype, you'd be saying he's a combination of Cy Young, Sandy Koufax, and Pedro … except better. So no. But, I think he's an incredibly good pitcher with the potential to be great.
What is the best baseball movie?
"Air Bud." Or "Baseketball."
Slate or Salon ... which is cooler?
I have more of a history with Salon, but these days I write more for Slate. Which is my way of saying I'm gonna wuss out on this one.
You traveled around New England selling your book. What was the most fun thing you did during your Red Sox-Yankees book promotion?
Lobster rolls in Maine. Duh.
I asked Alex Belth if that thing Yankee fans do -- where they call out each player's name until recognized -- is cool or unbearably obnoxious. What do you think?
It's not so much obnoxious as stupid and childish. It's what a three-year-old would do if he were trying to get his dad's attention while he was at work.
True or false: Curt Schilling will be in the Baseball Hall of Fame.
Tough call. I'd vote for him. He's the best postseason pitcher of his generation, and arguably the best postseason pitcher ever. That counts for at least as much as having the good fortune to be part of a double-play combination that was made into a catchy ditty. His ERA+ was pretty much always above 120, his WHIP was below 1.2 for six straight years, and he has more than 200 wins and 3,000 Ks. He was killed by those years in Philly, though, and too many of the writers who vote on the HOF (Hi, Murray!) are boobs who seem to be proud of their ignorance.
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